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Re: C-IPA underlying principles and methods

From:Tristan <kesuari@...>
Date:Wednesday, February 26, 2003, 11:48
Christophe Grandsire wrote:

>>The s-oid sounds being what they are, things seems to be going a little >>to >>easy here. How to indicate X-SAMPA [s_d] as opposed to [T], for >>instance? >>I'm having an idea on the later down, so read on ... > > I think you misunderstood the system here. As I said, the simple diacritics are > peculiar to C-IPA itself and are P/MoA movers, not IPA diacritics!
I think I understand, but it would seem to me that it would be better to describe it in terms of the IPA i.e. the simple diacritics of C-IPA move the sound to another box|dot on the IPA consonant|vowel charts. Because otherwise it would seem like [s+] should maintain it's sibilantness and become a dental sibilant fricative, which sounds different from a dental non-sibilant fricative, and vice-versa for [T-] (taking [T] to represent IPA theta).
> Well, there's one, but I think I prefer writing it as @} (lowered schwa).
Really? I would've thought [a-] be a low central unrounded vowel (no IPA, but would be useful in discussing English: RP [a] != Aussie [a-] != GA [a--]) and [@}] would be C(onlang)X(-)S(ampa) [6], upside-down a. Of course, I'm almost certainly confusing the two kinds of diacritics in C-IPA here. Tristan.

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Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>