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Re: [romconlang] -able

From:Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>
Date:Tuesday, April 15, 2008, 19:49
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:30 PM, David J. Peterson <dedalvs@...> wrote:
> What on Earth is this bizarre American dialect you speak?
Well, take away my generalization; my apologies. But what I said is true IML.
> Anything that's paved is paved, no matter what it's paved with.
That would be a perfectly valid generalization, but a meaningless one IML, where the verb "to pave" implies "with asphalt". Laying down concrete or bricks or what have you is not "paving". For instance, paving the road to Hell with good intentions has always created in my mind a vision of those intentions being poured into a machine and coming out as a mystical variety of blacktop. I was just observing a dialectical curiosity; I apologize for overgeneralizing it.
> And why can't "spade" have the definition "old word for shovel"?
It can have whatever definition you like, and of course it already has several. To me, it's one of those words that brings up unpleasant associations (unless you're talking about playing cards, in which "Spades" is one of my all-time favorite games; I don't claim toe be fully logical). I do know that I'm not the only one who has this association, though, since I have read several times about people having (mis)interpreted the proverb "To call a spade a spade" as having racist intent. Obviously, I know that it also can mean "shovel" and I have no trouble making the leap to that definition in context; it just takes a millsecond or two. I don't even think "old word" is appropriate - it is a current word, just not IML. Unlike the "pavement" case, you'll note I didn't generalize; I never claimed it was archaic or British or anything, just not part of my natural vocabulary. -- Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>

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