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Re: LCC2: Meeting our Community

From:T. A. McLeay <conlang@...>
Date:Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 7:23
Rick Harrison wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:35:17 +1000, T. A. McLeay <conlang@...> wrote:
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> I'm aware of the rule. If my first message was unclear, I was agreeing that the > 'Balkanaztion' of conlangers into different camps might be questionable, worthy of > reconsideration. During the language creation process there are more similarities than > differences, I think. After the design is done, that's when the behaviors and experiences > really diverge and become very different.
I'm pretty sure there's a few on this list whose main conlangs are auxlangs. The former Lord John Cowan of the Instrumentality, for instance, is the author of the book on Lojban, whose design criteria clearly make it suited for an auxlang (even tho that is not its main purpose). Dana Nutter is, I belive, another. I don't really think there is an unnatural balkanisation. I have little interest in most language types --- I have grown to prefer a posteriori artlangs and pay little attention to others. Far as I'm aware, that's all this "balkanisation" is. Maybe I *still* miss your point...
>>> And another thing... why do we write engelang instead of engilang? If it's a > contraction of >>> "engineered" shouldn't it be engi- rather than enge-? >> AFAIK, it's because it's pronounced /endZl&N/ i.e. as two syllables, and >> -ge- is one way to spell of soft g (cf. also vegetable /vedZt@b@l/), but >> -gi- isn't. > > Actually a poll was taken at the end of the recent gathering and quite a few people > reported using a 3-syllable pronunciation with a schwa in the middle. I don't recall the > exact results. I've always pronounced it (in my mind) as a 3-syllable word; I've never had > an opportunity to use it in conversation.
Interesting. I did a quick google because I thought the word was coined as quite definitely being two-syllables: And I found http://archives.conlang.info/shau/fhaendhau/shuerkhuengian.html Mike S: I think lablang or engelang will have to be it. Can the latter be enjlang? However, in a poll to decide whether lablang or engelang should be it: http://archives.conlang.info/di/jhiarchoe/zaurjurgian.html Garret Jones: 1. lablang = 17 points, 9 votes 2. englang = 5 points, 3 votes 3. eng(e/i)lang = 4 points, 3 votes (It's funny that lablang was the clear winner of the poll, but engelang has been the clear winner of usage. So it seems that polls are meaningless and I therefore will continue to pronounce it in my mind as two syllables.) -- Tristan.

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