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Re: More on number bases

From:John Cowan <jcowan@...>
Date:Sunday, May 19, 2002, 1:54
Raymond Brown scripsit:

> (1/12 of a pound troy* - still used by > gold- and silversmiths when I was young, but now legally obsolete in the > UK).
Since 1879, so I doubt you remember its abolition! Nonetheless, it could doubtless still be used internally to the trade, if not in the currency, just as guineas as a money of account were still in use long after the coin ceased to be coined.
> *named from Troyes in France, not the place inhabited by Trojans of old! > Why the pound avoirdupois assumed 16 ounces, I know not - but 'twas nothing > to do with the Romans :)
Probably due to 16 being a power of 2, allowing splitting in half neatly, but nobody knows for sure. It was imported to England from Italy about 1300. Note that the Italian "libra", though, is still a metricated troy pound of 300g, rather than the French/German metricated avoirdupois pound of 500g. Note that the troy ounce is slightly larger than the avoirdupois ounce, probably because of standards drift: 1 troy oz = 480 grains =~ 31.1g, but 1 av. oz = 437.5 grains =~ 28.3g. So we now all know why a pound of feathers is heavier than a pound of gold, and can contemplate this: # Because of their many eccentricities, English customary units clearly # are more cumbersome to use than metric units in trade and in science. As # metrication proceeds, they are less and less in use. On the other hand, # these traditional units are rich in cultural significance. We can trace # their long histories in their names and relationships. We should not # forget them, and it is unlikely that we will, even when Britain and # America complete their slow conversion to the metric system. The American # economy of the 22nd Century may be completely metric, but probably # Americans will still call 30 centimeters a "foot" and 1600 meters a # "mile." -- John Cowan <jcowan@...> http://www.reutershealth.com I amar prestar aen, han mathon ne nen, http://www.ccil.org/~cowan han mathon ne chae, a han noston ne 'wilith. --Galadriel, _LOTR:FOTR_

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Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>