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Re: Conlang Typology Survey

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Friday, May 23, 2003, 9:09
En réponse à Stone Gordonssen :


>My Bes Dis'z has >- pes pil's - >- a Pes book-belonging-to -
That seems more to be a case a la Dutch "Jan z'n boek" where the possessive adjective is added to mark a genitive construction, rather than both the possessor and the possessed being modified. But if you want a construction where both the possessor and the possessed are modified, take... Maggel!!! ;)))) My story about Maggel's construct state was incomplete because I was focussing on the possessee, but the possessor sometimes changes form too, but only for some nouns. It's due to the fact that most nouns have no case in Maggel, but some have the relic of an oblique case, i.e. everything but the subject. For those nouns, the possessor form is the non-subject rather than the subject one. My example already shows it. In |hbiirh an rin|, |rin| is actual the non-subject form of "woman". The subject form is |rim| (in this case the change of orthography is not accompanied by a change of pronunciation. Both are pronounced ['r\E~]). But since this happens only with nouns with a non-subject form and those are rare, I thought it was OK not to confuse people too much at once ;))) .
>You win. My brain hurts. :-)
What about the feminine form, initial |lu| pronounced [lu] (nothing wrong, except that there is a preposition |lu| but pronounced [lY] meaning "on", for things that are standing up :)) ), non-initial subject |lufd| pronounced still [lu], and non-initial non-subject |lufd| pronounced [lag]? ;)))) But I better stop before I provoke brain explosions in the world ;))) . Christophe Grandsire. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang.

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