Re: Announcement: New auxlang "Choton"

Christian Thalmann wrote:
> --- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, "Pascal A. Kramm" <pkramm@A...> wrote:
>
> Oh, one more thing...  "buy" is actually pronounced [baI],
> not [buI].  If you need an English example of [uI], better
> use "ruin".
>
Hmm, that's usually ['ru(w)@n] in all but the most careful (US)
pronunciation; British/RP may well vary.

Given the knowledge of everyone in this group, especially Our Lord of the
I., I won't _bet_ that there's no diphthongal [uj] in English, but every ex.
I can think of is 2 syllables-- "Louie" "chewy" "buoy" and "hooey, fooey"
come closest.

Spanish "muy" varies between [muj] and [mwi] in my experience.

Immediate diversion away from YAEPT:
Interestingly, Proto-Austronesian had both *-iw and *-uy (= -uj) in final
position; both quite rare, and often treated irregularly in descendants.

*kahiw 'wood' : Ml. kayu, Tag. kahoy
*baRiw '(strong) wind': Tag. bagyó; Jav. wayu (if that's not < Skt)
*laRiw 'run' : Ml. lari, Jav. layu; Dempwolff equates Tag. lagyó '(die
Flüchtige=) Seele', probably a stretch.

*-uy is retained in some, changed > /i/ in others, or loses the -w in yet
others.

*babuy 'pig':  Tag. baboy, Ml. babi; various Moluccan babu (~vavu ~fafu)

Proto-Kash also had *-iw and *-uy; in my subgroup these went (at different
times) to **-ü (IPA [y]) and palatalized preceding coronals and velars,
ending up as e.g.

*-tiw > **tju, **tHy > -tSi
*-guy > **gy > -dZu (dial.), my Kash -ndZu

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