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Re: Future of Spanish

From:Carlos Thompson <chlewey@...>
Date:Friday, March 12, 1999, 3:13
FFlores wrote:

> Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...> wrote: > > > Perhaps /kj/ and /gj/ could be > > palatized (if those clusters even exist). > > They exist. The k and g (and <j> =3D /x/) have palatal allophones > before /e, i, j/, but they are perfectly distinct from the > alveolo-palatal sound.
Well... I have been trying to look closely to my own pronunciation... an = it seams there is a little fronting of the /k/, /g/, /G/ before front vowels= (and little more fronted when followed by /j/) but never palatal. As for <j>, around here, in Colombia, it is uvular /h/ so there is no palatal allopho= ne.
> > [snip] > > Perhaps n~ might be lost, either > > moving forward to /n/, or back to /N/, or perhaps becoming /nj/ > > (probably unlikely). Maybe it would lose its nasality to become /j/ =
(I
> > think I've read of dialects that do that) > > The one change I have observed here is that <n~i> is > becoming /ni/. /(nj)i/ is very difficult to pronounce! > The sound itself is very rare in Spanish, and n~i is > extremely rare (the only example I can think of is > <compan~i'a> "company").
a=F1il (an~il). They are still /kompa'Jia/ and /a'Jil/ around here.
> > Loss of the subjunctive? If there were influence from English, > > that might be likely. > > Oh, no, our poor subjunctive! :-(
Ojal=E1 no se vaya. ... ojal=E1 no se est=E9 yendo Ojala no se va. ... ojal=E1 no se est=E1 yendo
> What might happen is that one of the alternative forms of > the subjunctive disappears (I mean, you may say "pasara" or > "pasase", "viera" or "viese", "matara" or "matase" and the > pairs mean exactly the same! That can't be good for the economy)
I would bet for the -ara, -iera for stay... but I guess speakers won't be= t for economy in this issue.
> > > > Orthographical changes: > > Elimination of b/v distinction > > Elimination of ll/y distinction (most LatAm dialects fuse those, yes?=
)
> > Elimination of h (except maybe where it's needed to distinguish betwe=
en
> > homophones, like ha/a) > > I hope those take place. And also the uniformation of g/j > (that <g> =3D /g/, not /g, x/), the elimination of z, the change > c > s when c =3D /s/, and some kind of rule as to when to write > <cc> (or <cs>) and when <x> for /ks/. The c/s problem is > particularly upsetting when a word ends in /'sjon/.
YEESSSS! But it would make guys like me even more confused for getting t= he correct -tion, -sion, -ssion ending in English.
> --Pablo Flores > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > A study of economics usually reveals that the > best time to buy anything is last year. > Marty Allen
Would this apply for computer related stuff?