Re: Second report on Koni'

 --- Christophe Grandsire skrzypszy:

> Depends on which Standard Dutch you mean ;)) (people can't even agree on what
> ABN, the alleged standard, is supposed to sound like ;))) ). And anyway
> nobody speaks the standard, not even the Queen (she speaks Queen's
> Dutch ;))) ).
Hehe. Very true.

> In the South, usually /f/ is [f], /v/ is [v] and /w/ is [v\] or [w] or [v]
> depending on position. More in the North, at least according to Irina Rempt
> and my own ears tend to agree, /f/ is [f], /w/ is [v] and /v/ is lax [f] (I
> don't know how IPA would mark that, [v_0] perhaps), so the difference
> between /f/ and /v/ would be a tense-lax distinction. Do you think it would
> fit what your ears tell you? :)
In general, I agree with you. Although I have only two ways: /f/ and /v/ both
sound like [f], and /w/ like [v]. The [w] sound, represented either by |uw| or,
when after /u/, by |w| only, IMO doesn't belong to the triangle.

> Needless to say, I favour strongly the Southern pronunciation ;)))) .
Hehe. We have been over this matter already. Was that privately?
Of course, needless to say that I favour the noble Northern (=standard)
pronunciation over those barbarian rural Southern dialects. ;)))))

Jan

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