Re: Second report on Koni'

En réponse à Isaac Penzev <isaacp@...>:

>
> I didn't mean aspiration. I meant triade. For my ear Dutch /f/ is [f],
> /w/
> is [v] and /v/ is [f] plus something I'm unable to catch. What are they
> in
> reality in Modern Standard Dutch?
>
Depends on which Standard Dutch you mean ;)) (people can't even agree on what
ABN, the alleged standard, is supposed to sound like ;))) ). And anyway nobody
speaks the standard, not even the Queen (she speaks Queen's Dutch ;))) ).

In the South, usually /f/ is [f], /v/ is [v] and /w/ is [v\] or [w] or [v]
depending on position. More in the North, at least according to Irina Rempt and
my own ears tend to agree, /f/ is [f], /w/ is [v] and /v/ is lax [f] (I don't
know how IPA would mark that, [v_0] perhaps), so the difference between /f/
and /v/ would be a tense-lax distinction. Do you think it would fit what your
ears tell you? :)

Needless to say, I favour strongly the Southern pronunciation ;)))) .

Christophe.

http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr

It takes a straight mind to create a twisted conlang.

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