Re: Terkunan: help with decision

On 2009-04-06 Tristan McLeay wrote:
> Perhaps I've missed previous threads where you've
> justified this, but why not use the suffixed apostrophe?
> It could be viewed as a closing consonant, and thus
> "raku'" and "rakun" would have the same structure for
> stress purposes. (Or maybe your whole point is that an
> apostrophe can't count as a word-final consonant because
> that will screw up other words. I really really hope not,
> because much of my answer remains the same regardless.
> But another possibility might be "rak-un/rak-u'", with a
> hyphen, if you use them/aren't opposed to using them.
> Spellings like "co-conspirator" demonstrate that it can
> be used without a full word on both sides in at least one
> language, altho I wouldn't want to be caught suggesting
> you adopt orthographical ideas from English *shudder* )
>
> It also seems to be the logical thing to do given you're
>  trying to view the -'un/-'u part as being identical to
> (or at least, more closely related to) the "un/u'" word.
> The different behavior of the apostrophe tends to
> *obscure* that in my view.
I was going to propose _raku'_ as well, so make
that two votes.  NB that when writing Italian in
all caps the final grave apostrophe comes out as
an aposrophe: CITTA'.

FWIW Rhodrese has _aocú_ but _aocun_ before vowels
as well. (Feminine _aocune_, plural _eocéu_).

As it happens I'm ATM in woes WRT the Rhodrese
indefinite article.  I feel that the changes I've
made to the feminine indefinite and plural
definite forms call for a change in the plural
indefinite as well. Consider the following
patterns:

         masc. sing.     fem. sing.      plur.
         _#C     _#V     _#C     _#V     _#C     _#V
------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------
def.    el      el      la      l'      li      gl'
indef.  un      un      na      n'      eun     eun

OR

         masc. sing.     fem. sing.      plur.
         _#C     _#V     _#C     _#V     _#C     _#V
------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------
def.    el      el      la      l'      li      gl'
indef.  un      un      na      n'      ni      gn'

Is the latter preferable or am I over-regularizing?

NB _eun_ would still mean 'some, a few',
while _aocú_ means 'some, any' and _naocú_
means 'not any, none'.


/BP 8^)>
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