> Alex Fink wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:44:06 +0100, Erbrice <erbrice@...>
>> wrote:
>>> What i ment and reaffirm is that when i discovered this list I
>>> was so
>>> happy
>>> and when i presented my langage
>>> the one i'm working on for 30 years
>>> which i invented clearly formulated: "to codes my thoughts" at the
>>> age of 11
>>> and that this langage grow evrytime i learn langages, i borrow
>> I, for one, didn't realise your language had such a history behind
>> it.
>
> Nor I.
>
> Often when someone new to the list makes their first posting, they
> introduce themselves. This, in my opinion, is very helpful. After
> all, on this list we have all ages ranging from teenagers to people
> in their 70s and, I suspect, 80s (any older?). Also people's
> interests differ considerably. It is helpful to have some idea who
> we are are responding to; it can avoid unfortunate misunderstandings.
>
>> 30 years is an impressive time, even more so if you've gotten
>> something which
>> is in fact oligosynthesis to function comfortably. Could you give
>> us an
>> introduction to this language? Or, better yet, direct us to a
>> grammar
>> sketch of it, if perchance you have one?
>
> Yes, indeed. Some actual examples of the language, preferably with
> glosses, would have helped.
> ===================================================
>
> Erbrice wrote:
> [snip]
> > AND
> > came a little post :
> > "It's an oligisynthetic langage"
> > and then, exept very fews posts ,
> > I've been only told
> > no way
> > no interest
> > allready wrecked
> > though I was only looking for people to share my technical problems
> > I experimented a lot of agression.
> > AND
> > it came the "you can't write english" thing
> > and i felt for few hours un sous homme, an underhuman, an
> excluded, a
> > oligoneuronal jerk
>
> Oh dear! There's clearly been some serious misunderstanding going
> on! And please don't take that the wrong way.
>
> Maybe the language is oligosynthetic - so what? This is a _conlang_
> list; there's room for all sorts of constructed languages.
>
> "no interest"?? Surely the posts that followed your first email
> showed that there *was* interest! The language sounded different
> and we (at least I) wanted to find out more, but I was not clear
> about some points of the language. I actually asked for more
> information.
>
> "I was only looking for people to share my technical problems"
> - but there were people who might have been willing.
>
> I am very sorry if you read posts as being aggressive. I was not
> aware of any aggression. In my experience, aggression is not a
> feature of this list. There were requests for clarification; there
> were people pointing out the difficulties - but that is something
> very different from aggression, surely!
>
> I do not recall anyone saying "you can't write English." The
> suggestion "You might have better luck writing in French" was over
> a particular point that some of us found puzzling. It was surely
> meant as a *helpful* suggestion.
>
> If I were writing in French on a French list I would not be
> surprised if sometimes my expressions seemed strange or obscure. If
> others on the list understood English, I might well say "Eh bien -
> let's see if you understand better if I put it in English."
> ----------------------------------
>
> As I say, there has IMO clearly been serious misunderstanding.
>
> I apologize if you thought my responses aggressive. Basically, I
> thought you were airing some new ideas you had and I was trying to
> point out the pitfalls and that what you seemed to be doing was not
> trivial. If I had known that you were talking about a language you
> had been developing for 30 years my replies would have been very
> different. For a start, I would expect that you had already
> realized that this was no trivial exercise :)
>
> To be helpful, can I suggest we draw a line under this unhappy
> episode?
>
> How about introducing yourself? A little bit about yourself and
> perhaps some history of the language you have been developing over
> the past 30 years.
>
> --
> Ray
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