Re: USAGE: Permissable /IN/ (was: [i:]=[ij]?)

Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...> wrote:
>
> Kristian Jensen wrote:
> > Actually, /IN/ is quite permissable in English, and I suspect in Nik's
> > dialect as well. The thing is, /I/ is raised so that it resembles [i].
>
> It's *identical* to /i/.  I can find no difference between the vowels in
> "seen" and "sing".
    As another data point, my idiolect agrees with Nik's on "ing".  For me
"sing" is definitely /siN/.  It's not that /IN/ sounds weird or unEnglish --
I can pronounce /sIN/ easily enough -- it's just that /IN/ doesn't appear in
any English words that I can think of.

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