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CHAT: silly (Welsh place) names

From:Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Sunday, March 18, 2001, 19:27
At 6:45 pm -0600 17/3/01, Eric Christopherson wrote:
>On Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 05:46:20PM +0000, Raymond Brown wrote: >> At 8:03 pm +1100 17/3/01, D Tse wrote: >> >Can someone tell me if such agglutinations are meant to be common in Welsh? >> >> *Pwllgwyngyll would not be odd as a place name. After all, _pwll gwyn >> gyll_ as perfectly grammatical and acceptable Welsh as "white hazels pool" >> is in English. > >"White hazels pool" is not acceptable, in my idiolect. It has a plural noun >in apposition with a noun ("hazels pool"),
No it does not! "white hazels" is an _epithet_, i.e. the phrase is adjectival, defining the pool. Nothing whatever to do with apposition. And a plural noun can quite well act as the epithet of a following noun in all versions of English that I know of, otherwise we'd not have "nice little girls school" quoted as an example of ambiguity so often. OK - add an apostrophe after "hazels" if you must. "White hazels' pool" is 'pwll gwyn gyll' in Welsh also. Ray. ========================================= A mind which thinks at its own expense will always interfere with language. [J.G. Hamann 1760] =========================================


Eric Christopherson <rakko@...>
Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>