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Re: Natural Order of Events

From:Paul Kershaw <ptkershaw@...>
Date:Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 19:25
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> From: caeruleancentaur <caeruleancentaur@...> > > Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets wrote: > > > That's really interesting. I know about classifiers in the context > > of counting, but didn't know that such things existed also in other > > contexts. At the same time, English does ride or drive, depending > > on the vehicle, while French uses a single word "conduire" (which > > we actually don't use that much anyway). > > I believe it's a little more nuanced than that.  One 'rides (on)' a > steed because that person is both on it and guiding it.  But only the > driver of a vehicle 'drives' it. Others must 'ride in' the vehicle.  > One can 'drive' a steed, but that has the nuance of being behind it > and forcing it to go where you want, e.g., to drive cattle.
Then there's "in" vs "on": The person who guides it: I ride (on) a horse, drive a car, pilot a plane, drive a bus, conduct a train. Other passengers: I ride on a horse, ride in a car, ride on a plane, ride on a bus, ride on a train. For me, if you drop the "on" to say "I ride a horse," that strongly implies that you're guiding the horse; if you're the second person on a horse that someone else is guiding, "I ride on a horse" sounds better. -- Paul

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