Re: Romola instead of Romula?

OK, then let this be Romula forever;-) I dislike Romola as well as
Rombla;-)) I'll keep articulo, but will use popolo, tabola, as in Italian,
as Romula is consedered to be even closer phonetically to Classical Latin as
campared with Italian.

Artyom.


>From: Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>
>Reply-To: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...>
>To: CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU
>Subject: Re: Romola instead of Romula?
>Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:48:55 +0100
>
>At 4:30 pm +0100 17/1/00, Christophe Grandsire wrote:
> >At 02:51 17/01/00 PST, you wrote:
>[snip]
> >>in Classical Latin, thus it must become -o- in a western Romance lang.
>E.g.
> >>Romulus is Romolo in modern Italian.
> >>
> >>The same goes, as I understand, for all words with post-stressed -u- in
> >>Classical Latin: articolo instead of articulo, tabola instead of tabula,
> >>popolo instead of populo etc. But: populare (u is pre-stressed).
> >>
> >>Am I right in doing this changing?
>
>I suspect 'populare' is a learned borrowing & not directly inherited from
>Vulgar Latin.
>
> >
> >        I'm not sure. What you say is right in Italian, but in French the
>'u'
> >simply disappeared ('article' from 'articulus', 'peuple' from 'populus')
> >and in Spanish it also disappears ('pueblo' from 'populus') or is
>retained
> >('arti'culo' (with stress on the 'i') from 'articulus' - this one may be
>a
> >borrowing from Classical Latin however - ).
>
>What Christophe says is correct (and Spanish 'artículo' is a learned
>borrowing from Classical Latin as he says).   In western Romance outside of
>Italy, the 'u' disappears.   This would, I assume, give 'Rombla' (with -ml-
>--> -mbl- ).
>
>Italian, however, retains the vowel and it would be, as Artem says
>'Romola'.
>
>But, of course, since the name is derived from the demi-god 'Romulus',
>traditionally 1st king of Rome, learned tradition may have kept the form
>'Romula' alive.
>
>(I definitely don't like 'Rombla'  ;)
>
>Ray.
>
>
>
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