Re: Another weird idea!

--- # 1 <salut_vous_autre@...> wrote:

> |a| is [t] after a vowel and [a] after a consonant
> |e| is [b] after a vowel and [e] after a consonant
Why these values? Specifically, what is the connection
between [a] and [t], or [e] and [b]?

> |i| is [j] after a vowel and [i] after a consonant
This is a very common alternation in language.

> |l| is [l] after a vowel and [o] after a consonnant
Actually, it's pretty common in English to have an
[o]-like sound in place of the 'dark L'. I know it's
how my cousins pronounced words when they were
younger; /little/ was pronounced ["lI.4OU] or
something like that.

> |s| is [s] after a vowel, a voiceless plosive, or at
> beginning of words, [z] after a voiced one, [s=]
> after a non-plosive voiceless consonant, and [z=]
> after a non-plosive voiced one
Nominally, Mandarin has syllabic sibilants (wow,
that's hard to say fast :). It's perfectly reasonable,
if a bit unusual.

> So if I've got a word "aeil" that would be
> pronounced [tejo] and that I add the prefix "ats-"
> to form "stsaeil", it is now pronounced
> [sasabil]... which sounds completely different!
...

Now, _that's_ cool!

> I don't thing such thing is natlangly possible but
> this would be a crazy thing to conlang in!
Maybe not so pervasive, but it's perfectly reasonable
to make alternations between the pairs [i]/[j],
[u]/[w], [l]/[OU] and [a]/[h\]. For even greater
wackiness, you could do what Spanish did and shift [j]
to [x] over time, as well as [w] to [v] to [b/B]:

L. vita ["wi.ta] ---> S. vida ["bi.da] (some dialects)
L. Paulus ["pau.lus] ---> S. Pablo ["paB.lo]
L. justus ["jus.tus] ---> S. justo ["xus.to]

(I may have messed up vowel length with some of the
Latin words, but it's irrelevant to the discussion
anyways)

> Comments? or who could tell me that this is an
> ANADEW?? I'd like this to be!
Vowel-consonant alterations are hardly rare, but
definitely not to the extent you're proposing. This is
interesting; do continue down this track :).


	
		
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