Re: CHAT Patagonian Welsh (was: Brithenig misunderstood)

I replied directly to Pablo, thanks to gmail and my inadvertence...

Just to mention that there was an article on this Welsh area of Argentina in
(IIRC) the NY Times (Sunday, Travel section) within the past few weeks. It
did indeed mention that the language was still in use, though many of the
families had acquired Spanish surnames.

More Welsh toponymy (I assume)-- Puerto _Madryn_ (?)

Chubut is probably a native word; claro, no es español.

BTW, I have an old US-published Welsh hymnal, picked up some years back at a
tag-sale. (The seller's grandparents had run a Welsh-lang. publishing co. in
Chicago; they also published Swedenborgian stuff too-- very curious.) Nice
tunes even if I don't know what they're saying....
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Ray Brown wrote:

> On Saturday, April 16, 2005, at 02:42 , Pablo Flores wrote:
>
> > On 4/16/05, Joe <joe@...> wrote:
> >> Ray Brown wrote:
> >>> ..and also, sadly, the real Welsh who settled Patagonia which is now
> >>> part
> >>> of Argentina.
> >>
> >> I don't know about all of them.  I'm pretty sure there's still a
> >> minority of Welsh-speakers in the Chubut Valley.
> >
> > It seems there's a Welsh-speaking community in Trevelin, Chubut.
> > According to <http://www.patagonia.com.ar/chubut/trevelin/infogral.php>
> > (in Spanish) even the younger generations speak Welsh and practice
> > their old customs and religion.
>
> Great - you two have made my day  :)
>
> Trevelin? Obviously the Argentinian way of spelling Welsh 'Trefelin'
> "Milltown" (<-- tre "town" + melin "mill") - tho Chubut ain't Welsh  ;)
>
> > I'm sure there are other speakers in the rest of the province.
>
> I hope so, a report I heard on the TV a few years back was depressing -
> but maybe there's more recently been a revival.
>
> O bydded i'r hen iaith barhau!

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