tomhchappell wrote:
> By the way, later in that thread you'll see people recommended
> Greville G. Corbett's book "Number" to me. I can now recommend it to
> you; it discusses some of these questions with great clarity.
I'll think about it when Shaquelingua will be "finished"... well, when
its grammar will be stable --if it ever will. Right now, I'm avoiding
like a plague any form of paper on grammar. I want Shaquelingua to look
like alien so my imagination is my only inspiring "book" and I still
have a lot of pages to read! Besides, I hate the grammarians. ;-)
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> Nice. Marking the "determiner" (or "article") -- a newish idea, to
> me -- rather than either the verb or the noun (strategies I mentioned
> in that post you referred to.)
Not so new for me since almost everything is marked on the determiner
(quantifier) in Shaquelingua: number/quantity, gender, case and even
more. It's even less than new since --apparently-- I kind of rewrote the
system of determiners from spoken French. I struck me the day before
yesterday while I was reading some web-paper on grammar. I started to
hate the grammarians at this very moment, I don't know why... ;-)
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>>indefinite:
>> COLL:DU z(#) a couple/pair of
>> DSTR:DU s(#) each of two
>> COLL:PL r(#) all of several
>> DSTR:PL g(#) each of several
>>definite:
>> COLL:DU tx(#) the couple/pair of
>> DSTR:DU kx(#) each of the two
>> COLL:PL vr(#) all the
>> DSTR:PL kv(#) each of the
>>Where (#) represents the case marking.
>
>
> Looks really, really nice.
> The kind of thing I'd want to "steal",
> if it were stealing from a natlang.
You're welcome. Apart from the collective/distributive distinction, it's
plain French or German. Two languages that I know and that carry some
kind of marking on the determiners, although none are as compact as
Shaquelingua can be.
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> Nice site.
Thank you.
>>Do not wander in the rest of the site which is outdated.)
> Just because it's "outdated" doesn't mean it doesn't have some
> interesting ideas!
Errr... I plead guilty. I knew that people would sneak around just
because I said "Don't go". That's what I always do.
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> I understood about the difference between
> "each of ..." and "some of ..." DISTR plurals.
> But you might want to make it clearer to the user of the language
> how that distinction is marked in Shaquiean.
Be patient. Right now, I'm re-working the pronouns to introduce the new
Rational/Irrational distinction. I'm also cooking some alien mixture in
order that the quantifiers don't look so "Europaish"... and there's that
fifth page on shaquean grammar that I can't finish writing because I
spend too much time restarting from the begining all over again.
Lot of work in the pipe and still only 24 hours per day. I asked for 36
but nobody listened.
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