Re: Miapimoquitch cat's cradle

On 13 Apr 02, at 22:01, And Rosta wrote:

> Philip Newton:
> > On 13 Apr 02, at 2:12, And Rosta wrote:
> >
> > > Dirk:
> > > > pate lukempi  ["paD1 "luG1m%bi:]
> > > > wapate lukkempi atipukan  ["waBaD1 "lukkem%bi: a"tSiBu%ka:~]
> > >
> > > What does % mean here? My best guess is devoicing, but that
> > > seems a little surprising in the Vm%b cases.
> >
> > According to http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/sampa/home.htm , % is
> > secondary stress (IPA: low vertical stroke) in SAMPA. And
> > http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/sampa/x-sampa.htm confirms that it has
> > the same function in X-SAMPA, the "native" encoding of the IPA (as far
> > as I can tell) of this group.
>
> Oh, I see. I have resolutely refused to learn (X-)SAMPA and am sorry to
> see that Dirk is no longer a fellow refusenik.
Heh. I haven't learned it, either -- my first couple of posts that
included phonemic or phonetic transcriptions used ASCII IPA, since
that's what I was accustomed to from alt.usage.english and later
sci.lang. But now I use X-SAMPA in deference to the custom of the group
-- which means that I always have to look up the web page first ;)

Cheers,
Philip
--
Philip Newton <Philip.Newton@...>

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