Em resposta a Christophe:
>> a a in viendra stressed
>> u in but un stressed, before n or m
>Well, in French <un> is a single nasal vowel /9~/, so it
>doesn't correspond to English u in but. What kind of sound are
>you trying to describe?
The French one. English does not have nasal voewels. The u in but is the
nearest I could find; perhaps it would be better described as "like u in
'but', but nazalised"? Or is this nonsense?
>> n n in un postvocalic
>n in <un> is not pronounced at all but the whole digraph <un>
>is used for the nasal vowel /9~/. Do you mean by this
>description that a postvocalic n always nasalises the previous
>vowel (as in European Portuguese IIRC)?
Exactly.
>> p and b sound as pf and bv before u in some places.
>Nice allophones!
Thank you!
>> c and g sound as French /cr/ and /gr/ before a in some places.
>Those ones are quite strange. Is there a reason why in some >dialects c
and g sound like /cr/ and /gr/?
I think yes, being c and g "back" (velar) stops and a a "back" vowel, the
stops become affricated. But perhaps "French /cr/" is not a good description.
The thing hears someting like /k/, followed by German /ch/, followed by
/a/. Is this more understandable?
>>must be some kind of sinchronicity, :-)
> :) Indeed, I believe you :) . It's a little like the >synchonicity that
makes Narbonósc orthography look between
>French and Portuguese :) .
Well, nobody said that a co-incidence should be composed by completely independent
incidences. :-)
Luís Henrique
PS: And, of course, gu sounds like g in goat/Gaulois before e/i, not before
a/o/u. Sorry.
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