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Re: OT: LWII: The Euroclones Strike Back!

From:Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@...>
Date:Friday, June 13, 2003, 13:41
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> > What do you mean, no website?! isn't the > > problem with Kerno is rather that > > there are too many websites? > > Could be. It's all pretty ad hoc. Just to satisfy > those curious sadists that wanted to see > something on the new grammar.
Ha, that would be me! Mwahahahahaaaa! And you are being sadistic in return, eh? Did you notice how small the letters on the grammar page are?! I had to copy the source and add <h4> tags to make it readable!
> > Two for vocab, > > That's probably not a bad idea, though. There is > enough there to justify it, I think.
Makes sense. Depends a bit on the speed of people's connections. Personally, I prefer an all-in-one approach, especially in lexicon files. So what I usually do with pages like yours is copying the two source codes into one. The advantage of course being that if I want to look up a Kerno word, all I have to do is one single search.
> At some point, a general Kerno language page will > be written up, from which all these other pages > will be linked. It will replace the several links > that currently exist on the IB main page.
Good!
> > Alternatively, what many people do is adding a > > Babel text, > > I thought there was a bable text in the texts page? > > > and linking their > > model language description to that page. > > Oh, you mean from langmaker?
Indeed. You don't even have to send a whole Babel text to Langmaker; all you would need to do is give the link (that's what I did with Wenedyk, anyway. A good thing, because from time to time I change something).
> > In how far did the two develop independently? > > Conhistorically? Or in real life? In real life, > almost enrirely independently. Kerno started out > long after B was full fledged.
Really? According to Langmaker Brithenig was started in 1996. Perhaps I misunderstood something.
> The three families are Eastern (extinct, early > dialects centered at London and other population > centers in the pre-Saxon east); Western (Kerno > and its sisters); Northern (the > Brithenig-Cumbrian-Votadinian continuum). > Breathanach fits into the Northern family, but > seems to be divergent enough that there may well > be a fourth family in the north.
I would say so! Isn't Breathanach the Q-Celtoromance answer to P-Celtoromance Brithenig?
> Of them all, it seems B and K are the strongest survivals; > Cumbrian is much reduced; Votadinian is long dead.
Hmm. Anything of these languages on paper?
> > Incidentally, are you aware of "Yer Ugly Mug"? > > An awful hole to be filled by an awfuller > picture, eh?
Well, unless I am completely misinformed the Rules say nothing against submitting a highly idealised picture of yourself in a harness on a white horse!
> Don't even _mention_ those linguapunks! We saw > that they were capital T trouble right from the > start! Why, the very Fundaments of Kernanto bans > these wannabes from IALland forever!!!!!!
You shouldn't worry too much about them. A bunch of these freaks have been signalled lately in the RTC, trying to proclaim a new IAL To End All IALs, Venedino! Easier to learn, they figured. No articles. Ha! They can't even get the pronunciation right!
> Oh, I have no illusions of the necessity of such > terms! But conlangers seem hellbent on making > them up; I figured I'd get me tuppence in the > hat!
You are right. Well, I'll sleep happily knowing that my two Eurocents were the "Esperantoids".
> > BTW, what do the letters in the subject header > > "LWII" mean? Linguistic War II? > > Yep.
"You are in black darkness and confusion. You have been hugger-muggered and carried shouting into a war, and you know nothing about it. You know nothing about the forces that caused it, and you are next to nothing. You ought not to be in this war. You cannot win this war." Jan ===== "Originality is the art of concealing your source." - Franklin P. Jones __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html

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