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Re: More ASCII IPA suggestions

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Tuesday, February 10, 2004, 21:31
Quoting Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>:

[snip]
> I think that should be mnemonicality [not 'mnemonicity'], if indeed there is > such a word.
AHD doesn't recognize one, so we better introduce one!
> > > BTW I think that the frequent use of \ should be > > > avoided, since it leads to ugly character sequences > > > in phonemic transcriptions: /i\/ or /\i/ are equally > > > bad in this respect! I have no immediate suggestion > > > for an alternative diacritic, however. Perhaps * ? > > > >I don't much like the backslash for this either, but good alternatives are > >rare. > > > >Least bad would probably be simply switching * and \ - no-one seems to be > much > >using the mid-centralizing diacritic anyway. Does anyone else have an > opinion > >on this? > > You could always use [^*] for mid-centralizing and > consign the backslash to oblivion, or use \ as a less > confusable alternative to ` -- cf. the typo-problem above > and the fact that people tend to mix up ` and '!
If I get rid of the backslash, it's gonna stay dead! I've grown rather attached to ` for retroflexes, but I of course agree it's not problem-free. [snip]
> May I also propose [w\] (or [w*]) for bilabial approximant > as in Hlasa Tibetan [NA:_Lw\@N_H], a proper name. > I use Greek psi for this as a compromise between IPA > [p\] and [v\].
Wouldn't [B\] (or [B*]) be better - it relates to [B] as [v\] ([v*]) to [v]?
> BTW in my converter I also used [a\] = [&] and [o\] = [&\], > since I wanted to avoid & < > which are escaped in HTML.
They could be alternatives, but I think it's worth sticking to the de-facto standard of [&] for IPA ae-ligature. [snip]
> >I'd say that German diphthong is closer to [{Ao}], tho. > > Very possible. I've never seen it so transcribed tho.
You've not? The material we had in Uni home in Sweden wrote it consistently that way (or [{AU}]), and our teacher specifically pointed out the thing begins well back. No _German_ material I've seen cares, but that probably says more on how much phonological stuff I've read in German than anything else. Andreas

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Barbara Barrett <barbarabarrett@...>
Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>