Re: More ASCII IPA suggestions

Quoting Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>:

[snip]
> I think that should be mnemonicality [not 'mnemonicity'], if indeed there is
> such a word.
AHD doesn't recognize one, so we better introduce one!

> > > BTW I think that the frequent use of \ should be
> > > avoided, since it leads to ugly character sequences
> > > in phonemic transcriptions: /i\/ or /\i/ are equally
> > > bad in this respect!  I have no immediate suggestion
> > > for an alternative diacritic, however. Perhaps * ?
> >
> >I don't much like the backslash for this either, but good alternatives are
> >rare.
> >
> >Least bad would probably be simply switching * and \ - no-one seems to be
> much
> >using the mid-centralizing diacritic anyway. Does anyone else have an
> opinion
> >on this?
>
> You could always use [^*] for mid-centralizing and
> consign the backslash to oblivion, or use \ as a less
> confusable alternative to ` -- cf. the typo-problem above
> and the fact that people tend to mix up ` and '!
If I get rid of the backslash, it's gonna stay dead!

I've grown rather attached to ` for retroflexes, but I of course agree it's
not problem-free.

[snip]
> May I also propose [w\] (or [w*]) for bilabial approximant
> as in Hlasa Tibetan [NA:_Lw\@N_H], a proper name.
> I use Greek psi for this as a compromise between IPA
> [p\] and [v\].

Wouldn't [B\] (or [B*]) be better - it relates to [B] as [v\] ([v*]) to [v]?

> BTW in my converter I also used [a\] = [&] and [o\] = [&\],
> since I wanted to avoid & < > which are escaped in HTML.
They could be alternatives, but I think it's worth sticking to the de-facto
standard of [&] for IPA ae-ligature.

[snip]
> >I'd say that German diphthong is closer to [{Ao}], tho.
>
> Very possible.  I've never seen it so transcribed tho.
You've not? The material we had in Uni home in Sweden wrote it consistently
that way (or [{AU}]), and our teacher specifically pointed out the thing
begins well back.

No _German_ material I've seen cares, but that probably says more on how much
phonological stuff I've read in German than anything else.

                                                        Andreas

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