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Re: It may pay off just yet

From:Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Date:Tuesday, May 1, 2001, 20:18
Barry Garcia wrote:

>Well, on the hints from other people to look at Mozarabic for words from >Arabic to take into Montreiano, i found on word i like that may be a good >one to borrow. Instead of say "notiças" for news, i decided to use >"aubixara" /awbiSara/ which comes from "al bishara". I've been also >looking at some Kharjahs in order to get more ideas. The one aubixara was >taken from is thus: > >Des kand meu Sidiello bénid >¡tan bona al-bisara! >¡Kom raya de sole esid >en Wad-al-hagara! > >When my Cidiello appears >such good news >as if a ray of sun appears >in guadalajara!
And David Peterson wrote:
>but the only word for "news" I ever learned in Arabic was "alkhabr"
[Elxabr]. >I've never heard "al bishara"... David is right about alkhabr; but I'm also aware of Mozarabic al bishara-- which I think gets Hispanicized to "albricias", possibly archaic-- I recall the phrase "Dadme albricias, Don .... " from some old poem (El Cid??). So the question is, is there _any_ Arabic word resembling "bishara", and what might it mean? Indonesian, which has borrowed heavily from Arabic as well as Indic/Persian languages, has _bicara_ [bi'tSara] 'to talk, speak'; _mem/bicara/kan 'to talk about, discuss'-- and my Old Javanese dictionary marks _wica:ra_ as "Skt." (that could mean Skt. itself, or any of the Prakrits/Indic langs. spoken in the early C.E., possibly even Persian). So an interesting possibility: an Indic/Persian word borrowed into Arabic, thence to Spain??? A couple other Arabic terms that might be suitable for Montreiano: habibi '(my) beloved' found in lots of Kharjas; shukur 'Thank God, thanks be to God' (that's the Indonesian form, original shukr or somesuch.) BTW there are several very interesting CDs of Arabo-Hispanic music-- some of the music is reconstructed or based on modern forms (and frankly, not to my liking), but the texts are authentic.

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