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Re: Tsuhon: tentative phonology

From:SuomenkieliMaa <suomenkieli@...>
Date:Thursday, May 3, 2001, 17:31

--- Yoon Ha Lee <yl112@...> wrote:
> What works, works. :-p I can attest that my > spelling in Korean is atrocious, so at least > you'd've spelled things right. =^)
Really?!! <puzzled> I've read that King Sejong thoroughly derived Hangul so as to be a logical way of writing Korean. Of the little Korean I know, isn't the writing of characters quite simple (and visually aesthetic!)? For example, "kam-sam-ni-da" would be something (in the Hangul characters) like: K+A S+A N+I D+A M M (where Hangul can hold up to 4 characters in one syllable) I just have not come to understand the variations that occur at the end of some words. Don't have details, just heard that once... Well, in Japanese they have the small kana "tsu" intercept in the event you want to make the following syllable's initial consonant doubled. So, "matto" is spelled with the small kana "tsu" after "ma" and before "to" -- and the double "t" would be said with aspiration prior to it. Now, that to me is (among other things in J.) atrocious!
> <rueful look> I want mainly-Japanese grammar > for this...trying to port gender into that would be > messy.
Ouch! Really?! Even many of my Japanese friend (in mid 20s) have complained about the uselessness of some of those too-formal-for-formal not-so-easy-to-figure-out-and-slightly-incomprehensible-or-vague-at-time Japanese grammar rules. Has anyone here learned "keigo"? (If so, are you non-Japanese?) That may put a different light on the matter. YHL, is the mainly-Japanese grammar for an IAL or artlang? I suppose it won't be intended for easy (ie, quick) communication, if you plan on spouting all sorts of 'hierarchies' of formality. Well, best of luck on it! As the Japanese may say in quite formal language, "oganbarininaruyoo(ni) oinoriitashimasu" where you could say in layman terms "ganbatte(ne)!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices


Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
Yoon Ha Lee <yl112@...>
Eric Christopherson <rakko@...>Japanese small tsu (was Re: Tsuhon: tentative phonology)
Marcus Smith <smithma@...>Japanese small tsu (was Re: Tsuhon: tentative phonology)