Re: CHAT: Ave Maria

At 07:05 27.6.2000 +0100, Raymond Brown wrote:

>It was in the 11th cent. the words started to be used as a form of popular
>devotion (a bit like a mantra).
It *is* a mantra, fair and square, as the word actually translates as
"prayer".  *We* even use rosaries, you know!  There are 108 beads in a
Buddhist rosary -- somewhat fewer in yours I believe.  Monks -- including
HHDL -- often wear it wrapped around their right wrist like a bracelet, so
not even he can keep track of his "Om Mani Padme Hum"s it seems! :-)  There
are (much) longer mantras too, of course.  Many have 108 words, e.g. the
Chinese version of the Heart of Transcendent Knowledge Sutra.  The last
line of that Sutra is a mantra in it self, and occurs in Quenya translation
in my sig.  The translation is due to David salo, not me! :-)

At 21:48 27.6.2000 +0100, Dan Jones wrote:

>All I know is that it is early, and was bought to Caedha by some Croats who
>happened to slip through the dimensions.
Has there appeared any Buddha in Caedha in historical times?  Else it would
be about time for one... ;-)

(And don't tell me there wouldn't; Buddhas do appear in all world systems
at regular intervals! :-)

The Refuge is rather short in its basic form, namely:

"I take refuge with the Enlightened, I take refuge with the Teaching, I
take refuge with the Order."



/BP

  B.Philip Jonsson  mailto:melroch@mail.com
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