Re: Translation: Trolls and their Management

Quoting Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>:

> At 04:53 18.1.2004, Tristan McLeay wrote:
>
> >_Troll_ is Troll /Su:/ in the nominative of _Trållen_, quite obviously a
> >(mis)translation of 'troll' (as in the ogre, not fishing), borrowed from
> >the same Scandinavian source.
>
> The spelling _Trållen_ looks quite funny.  Although
> "Standard Swedish" has /o:/ for _o_ in _troll_
You mean short /o/, don't you? Quite apart from your usual hesitancy to afford
phonemic status to vowel length, the vowel certainly is short ([O], normally),
and whichever way you phonematicize the difference it's a minimal pair with
_trål_ [tro:l].

(That's loose transcription again, btw - going down to [t_d_hr`o:l] brings in
other 'lectal differences, as well as being extremely ugly.)

                                                 Andreas

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