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Re: CHAT: XS vs. Kirshenbaum vs. Who-knows-what

From:Morgan Palaeo Associates <morganpalaeo@...>
Date:Friday, January 30, 2004, 1:47
Trebor Jung wrote:

> Absolutely! I would really like to look at your transcription scheme
Well, first of all here's the consonants. I use more digraphs than x-sampa does, and I use them a little more consistently, in order to conserve letters. This will be interspersed with a little commentary (two rows of stars being used to deliminate commentary), and the sort of feedback I'm expecting is not dissimilar to the sort of feedback you'd give to a conlang. Best to take it in the same spirit, IYKWIM. Adrian. ******************************************************************************** ******************************************************************************** Working Title: "FITS - Frivolous IPA Transcription Scheme" Consonants bil lad dap ret pal vel uv pha gl +-----+-----+-------+-------+-------+-----+-------+------ +-----+ | m | M | n | n` | N~ | N | N` | | | nas | p b | | t d | t` d` | k~ g~ | k g | k` g` | | ? | plos | b* | | r* | | | | g* | | | tr | | | d* | d`* | | | | | | t/fl | P B | f v |TsS DzZ| s` z` | K~ G~ | K G | K` G` | h~ H~ | h H | fric | | | x X | | | | | | | lat fric | | V | r | r` | j | J | | | | appr | | | l | l` | L~ | L | | | | lat appr | b} | | d} | | g~} | g} | g`} | | | vd implos +-----+-----+-------+-------+-------+-----+-------+-------+-----+ [p!] bilabial click [p^] bilabial ejective [T!] dental click [t^] dental/aveolar ejective [t!] (post)alveolar click [k^] velar ejective [s!] palatoalveolar click [s^] alveolar fricative ejective [l!] alveolar lateral click [W] voiceless labial-velar fricative [K$] voiceless epiglottal fricative [w] voiced labial-velar approximant [G$] voiced epiglottal fricative [w~] voiced labial-palatal approximant [k$] epiglottal plosive [l*] alveolar lateral flap [s$] voiceless alveopalatal fricative [#] velarised /l/ [z$] voiced alveopalatal fricative [{] begin double articulation or affricate (when necessary) ******************************************************************************** ******************************************************************************** Now, as for the vowels, let us first note that people tend to use x-sampa [3] for the vowel in "bird" regardless of whether it's really [3], [8], [3`], [8`], or anything in that vicinity (for my part, I still need rhoticity to be unambiguously explained to me, as it's something I have unresolved questions about). In general, [3] gets used to mean, "a roughly mid-central vowel, but with a different quality from schwa". Since in practise people rarely bother with higher resolution than that when discussing vowels in the mid central region, I have not bothered to implement such resolution, and have designated [R] to serve the above role (not wholly unlike Kirsch). ******************************************************************************** ******************************************************************************** Vowel diagram +---------------------------+ | | also [R] to represent the vowel in 'heard' | i y i> u< | u | i.e. roughly mid-central but distinct from schwa | I Y I> U< = U | | | | e c q o | | @ | | E C Q O | | | | & % | | a ( A ) | | | +---------------------------+ Diacritics and Suprasegmentals [\T] dental [\<] advanced [\t] apical [\>] retracted [\s] laminal [\-] raised [\p] linguolabial [\+] lowered [\w] labialised [\%] centralised [\~] palatised [\@] mid centralised [\k] velarised [\o] more rounded [\H] pharangealised [\e] less rounded [\K] velarised or pharangealised [\G<] advanced tongue root [\N] nasalised [\G>] retracted tongue root [\R] rhoticity [\f] voiceless ["] begin primary stress [:] long [\v] voiced ['] begin secondary stress [;] half long [\F] breathy voiced [,] syllabic break [.] extra short [\V] creaky voiced [/] minor (foot) group [_] syllabic [\h] aspirated [//] major (intonation) group [\.] non syllabic [\n] nasal release [\\] linking (absence of a break) [\l] lateral release [\_] no audible release Tones not implemented Meta Comments The following letters are not used in [\x] digraphs: abcd g ij mn qr u xyz ABCDE IJ LM PQ TU XYZ Numbers 0-9 are not used at all. Numbers 0 and 1 should be avoided lest confusion arise with 0 and l.

Replies

Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Tristan McLeay <zsau@...>
Muke Tever <hotblack@...>FITS (was: CHAT: XS vs. Kirshenbaum vs. Who-knows-what)
Barbara Barrett <barbarabarrett@...>Rhoticity and other stuff.