Re: Second report on Koni'

Christophe Grandsire ikrih:

> > It would. So it's North. I hear it the way you say. A propos, can you
> > then
> > explain me this tense-lax distinction?
>
> I wish I could, but I haven't the faintest idea what the difference is,
and I
> don't think I can readily reproduce it. I just kind of hear it...
Good. At least it means that my ears do not betray me :-))

>  I'm especially interested because
> > it may
> > help me to describe better the Ukrainian phoneme /v/ whose main
> > allophone is
> > definitely different from Russian [v] (which is the same as in French,
> > I
> > believe), but surely not [w] which occurs only before consonants and
> > in
> > auslaut.
> >
>
> Could Ukranian /v/ be actually [v\] (labiodental approximant)? Or is it
> definitely fricative?
Good idea. But on the other hand, I slightly doubt if it is labiodental. It
sounds (and looks) more like smth bilabial. Having looked at the thread
about Czech r^, I found an opportunity to describe it as "voiced bilabial
approximant" [B_o] - "lowered beta". Ugh, pronunciation threads become
dangerous...

Mucha rigatu,
tabrikos,
Yitzik (who is now inspired to revive his creole project)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Nu no kere gera

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