Re: NATLANG ruki-rule in Slavic

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From: "BP Jonsson" <bpj@...>
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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: NATLANG ruki-rule in Slavic


> At 23:12 17.8.2003 +0400, Pavel Iosad wrote:
> > > I know that Slavic is a ruki-language, i.e. there is an early
> > > shift *s > S > x after any of the sounds *r *u *k *i.
> >
> >True.
> >
> > > But what happens if the *s preceded a consonant, and in
> > > particular *p *t *k.  I suspect we don't get
> > > xp xt xk in those cases!
> >
> >In most cases nothing happened AFAIR, i.e. the ruki-rule was blocked.
> >
> >Of the books I have at home, I can only find a reference in Lashkova,
> >L., Uvod v sravnitelnata gramatika na slavyanskite ezici. Sofia: EMAS,
> >2000, who writes on pp. 87-88 (hasty translation from Bulgarian at 11
> >PM):
> >
> >'The consonant X - a new phoneme, which arose in Proto-Slavic soil from
> >the Indo-European consonant -s- in certain conditions [conditions
> >snipped]. The second condition of satemization [sic!] is that the
> >consonant must be followed by a vowel. In any case, p, t and k must not
> >follow the -s-, or else the process will not be executed'
> >
> >Hope this helps,
> >Pavel
>
> Excellent, thanks!  (Always nice to have your expectations confirmed! :-)
>
> BTW how easy/hard is Bulgarian to read for a Russian?
> The same order as Danish/Swedish I would suspect.

I'd say more like Danish/German.  After all, Bulgarian is a South Slavic
language, and Russian is an East Slavic one(or have I got that wrong?).  A
better analogy for the Danish-Swedish-Nowegian triangle would be
Belarusian-Ukrainian-Russian, I think.

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