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Re: Zetowvu / Ezotwuv (new conlang)

From:Tristan <kesuari@...>
Date:Monday, February 24, 2003, 10:24
On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 12:05, Arthaey Angosii wrote:

> PS - Does anyone have a better ASCII representation of the vowels? Here's > mine:
> i y 1 } M u > I Y I\ U\ U > e 2 @\ 8 7 o > @ > E 9 3 3\ V O > { 6 > a & A Q
Well, that's standard X-SAMPA. It gets extra points in the betterness category because it's reasonably standard. However, because { and } are stupid characters for letters, and because most other ASCII IPAs use & for ash/ae ligature, an alternate representation is sometimes used here: i y 1 0 M u I Y I\ U\ U e 2 @\ 8 7 o @ E 9 3 3\ V O & 6 a * A Q Using 0 for } is reasonably rare and a bit naughty because it's hard to tell the difference between 0 (zero) and O (capital o) in many fonts. Not to say that there aren't fonts that don't really distinguish between 1 (one) and l (small L). Using * for small caps OE ligature is something I just made up on the fly to fill the hole; the symbol is rare enough that I doubt it's ever come up at the same time someone's used & for ash. Whenever you use &, unless it's obvious (i.e. in a well-known natlang), it's probably best to define it. Other ASCII IPAs on this list are likely to result in something between blank stares and utter confusion. For a while, Christophe (and others?) was working on his own ASCII IPA because X-SAMPA is unaesthetic and lacks good mnemonics, and other ASCII IPAs don't represent the entire IPA with simple characters. I don't know what happened to it in the end; it probably fell onto a backburner and then dropped behind the oven. Of course, knowing my luck, Christophe's been working hard at it and is about to start using it tomorrow... Did that help? I dunno if that was your exact question... Tristan

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Eamon Graham <robertg@...>ASCII IPA (Was Re: Zetowvu / Ezotwuv (new conlang))
Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Isaac A. Penzev <isaacp@...>
Arthaey Angosii <arthaey@...>
Peter Bleackley <peter.bleackley@...>