Re: Fronted back vowels.

B. Garcia skrev:
> I did ask this elsewhere (and got a variety of answers), but I'd like to
> see what you guys have to say. I'm creating a personal con-alphabet (in
> fact, i've got it mostly rendered.. i'm planning to post it later). It's
> meant to represent how I speak. I've got my "normal" speech represented
> there (typical western American accent). I also want to render a way to
> show the "Californian" accent, that I'd posted about a week ago. So,
> here's my dilemma. I'm not exactly sure what the IPA for _fronted_ /o/
> and /u/ are. I could easily just write down in my notes under the glyphs
> "fronted", but the chart I'm using, I want to use the right IPA symbols
> when I post them. On the ZBB board, people there said that the values
> for fronted /o/ and /u/ are "barred O" (and gave /2/ for the ASCII IPA)
> and "barred u" (Giving /}/. Looking at Don Blahedo's chart, /2/ is
> "slashed o" not "barred o".
>
> So, what exactly *are* the IPA values for fronted  /o/ and /u/? Are
> there extremes? What do these vowels typically change to?
In CXS barred _o_ is [8] and barred _u_ is [u\].
And I would say that they are centralized rather than
fully fronted, which would mean [2] (ø) or [y].
Centralized values for /u/ is not at all uncommon in
English accents worldwide.  [8u] for older /oul/
is rather common too.

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