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Re: Fronted back vowels.

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Tuesday, April 26, 2005, 20:16
B. Garcia skrev:
> I did ask this elsewhere (and got a variety of answers), but I'd like to > see what you guys have to say. I'm creating a personal con-alphabet (in > fact, i've got it mostly rendered.. i'm planning to post it later). It's > meant to represent how I speak. I've got my "normal" speech represented > there (typical western American accent). I also want to render a way to > show the "Californian" accent, that I'd posted about a week ago. So, > here's my dilemma. I'm not exactly sure what the IPA for _fronted_ /o/ > and /u/ are. I could easily just write down in my notes under the glyphs > "fronted", but the chart I'm using, I want to use the right IPA symbols > when I post them. On the ZBB board, people there said that the values > for fronted /o/ and /u/ are "barred O" (and gave /2/ for the ASCII IPA) > and "barred u" (Giving /}/. Looking at Don Blahedo's chart, /2/ is > "slashed o" not "barred o". > > So, what exactly *are* the IPA values for fronted /o/ and /u/? Are > there extremes? What do these vowels typically change to?
In CXS barred _o_ is [8] and barred _u_ is [u\]. And I would say that they are centralized rather than fully fronted, which would mean [2] (ø) or [y]. Centralized values for /u/ is not at all uncommon in English accents worldwide. [8u] for older /oul/ is rather common too. -- /BP 8^)> -- Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch at melroch dot se Solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant! (Tacitus)