Re: CHAT: Ave Maria

>From:    Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>
>Subject: Re: CHAT: Re: Ave Maria
>
>The problem is that the verb 'kharitoO' is very rare & hardly used,
>apparently, outside of the JudaeoChristian Scriptures.  According to
>Liddell & Scott, it occurs once in the Septuagint, in Ecclesiasticus
>(Siracides) 18, verse 17.  Unfortunately, I don't have the Septuagint
>version.
According to http://unbound.biola.edu/

Septuagint Ecclesiasticus 18:17
ouk idou logos uper doma agathon kai amphotera para andri kekharitOmenO

(I probably made a mistake copying that but you could go look it up...I
apparently don't have access to install fonts on this computer, ick.)

>In the Vulgate version there is nothing at chap.18, verse 17 that
>could possibly correspond to the verb.  But there are difference in
>numbering chapters & verses in the Septuagint & Vulgate versions, so I'm
>afraid I can't pin this down but I guess it won't have the Pauline meaning,
>but prob. means 'having favor shown to one' (it's passive here acc. to L &
S).

...
nonne ecce verbum super datum bonum et utraque cum homine iustificato

So apparently iustificato = kekharitOmenO there.
(I don't know a thing about either language so I could be entirely wrong ;)
The structure looks pretty much the same though.)


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