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Re: Arabo-Romance (was Re: Arabic transliteration)

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Wednesday, November 20, 2002, 19:48
En réponse à "Isaac A. Penzev" <isaacp@...>:

> > It's not unknown to me, rafiko (=colleague). I merely meant that since > Spanish fem.def.art. comes from proto-form *ela, it may have happened > in > Arabo-Romance, that Arabic loans would prefer use rather |äl| than > |la|, > being influenced by Ar. |;l|. >
True enough :) .
> > BTW, since we started talking about *your* Arabo-Romance and *my* > Arabo-Romance, I have to make at least a provisional name for *my* > project > to avoid confusions. > > A PROVISONAL NAME FOR YITZIK'S ARABO-ROMANCE PROJECT > IS ***RUMIYA*** > [end of official statement] >
Nice name. I haven't the faintest idea how I would call mine :(( . But hey, it took me months to choose a name for Narbonósc :)) .
> > Nice! I think it may work. Should I try to add article reprise too? > |äl-lesano 'r-Rumiyä|? Sounds fine. Need to think over. > (oops! I see I need a standard romanization for it too...) >
*My Arabo-Romance has it too :)) . Just like by influence from Arabic, it has mostly a prefixing conjugation for non-past tenses, and a suffixing one (coming from the perfect tenses of Latin) for past tenses.
> > Oh, no. Morfologicly I believe Rumiya is going to be quite > Ibero-Romance. > Smth may happen with syntax, but merely a flavor. My patterns in this > kind > of so-to-say "contact languages" are English, Yiddish and Farsi. >
That's the difference. Your Rumiya is mostly an Ibero-Romance language with strong Arabic influence. Mine is entitled to be a true Arabo-Romance language deriving directly from Latin. The conhistorical details are not known, but it has to do with a big groups of Romans fleeing Rome (maybe Republicans at the edge of the fall of the Roman Republic? I could include Cicero and a strong Classical Latin influence on the language. Since I want this language to have, like Arabic *here*, an actually bilingual situation, with a classical language and an everyday speech, using the Classical/Vulgar Latin dichotomy to start with would be great :)) ) and ending up somewhere around *here*'s Medina (or Mecca? Anyway where Arabic *here* first developed), slaughtered the men, married the women, and created a New Rome ;))) .
> > Your comments will be regularly appreciated ;-)
Thanks! Yours too, by the way :) . Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.