Re: Arabo-Romance (was Re: Arabic transliteration)
From: | Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, November 20, 2002, 19:48 |
En réponse à "Isaac A. Penzev" <isaacp@...>:
>
> It's not unknown to me, rafiko (=colleague). I merely meant that since
> Spanish fem.def.art. comes from proto-form *ela, it may have happened
> in
> Arabo-Romance, that Arabic loans would prefer use rather |äl| than
> |la|,
> being influenced by Ar. |;l|.
>
True enough :) .
>
> BTW, since we started talking about *your* Arabo-Romance and *my*
> Arabo-Romance, I have to make at least a provisional name for *my*
> project
> to avoid confusions.
>
> A PROVISONAL NAME FOR YITZIK'S ARABO-ROMANCE PROJECT
> IS ***RUMIYA***
> [end of official statement]
>
Nice name. I haven't the faintest idea how I would call mine :(( . But hey, it
took me months to choose a name for Narbonósc :)) .
>
> Nice! I think it may work. Should I try to add article reprise too?
> |äl-lesano 'r-Rumiyä|? Sounds fine. Need to think over.
> (oops! I see I need a standard romanization for it too...)
>
*My Arabo-Romance has it too :)) . Just like by influence from Arabic, it has
mostly a prefixing conjugation for non-past tenses, and a suffixing one (coming
from the perfect tenses of Latin) for past tenses.
>
> Oh, no. Morfologicly I believe Rumiya is going to be quite
> Ibero-Romance.
> Smth may happen with syntax, but merely a flavor. My patterns in this
> kind
> of so-to-say "contact languages" are English, Yiddish and Farsi.
>
That's the difference. Your Rumiya is mostly an Ibero-Romance language with
strong Arabic influence. Mine is entitled to be a true Arabo-Romance language
deriving directly from Latin. The conhistorical details are not known, but it
has to do with a big groups of Romans fleeing Rome (maybe Republicans at the
edge of the fall of the Roman Republic? I could include Cicero and a strong
Classical Latin influence on the language. Since I want this language to have,
like Arabic *here*, an actually bilingual situation, with a classical language
and an everyday speech, using the Classical/Vulgar Latin dichotomy to start
with would be great :)) ) and ending up somewhere around *here*'s Medina (or
Mecca? Anyway where Arabic *here* first developed), slaughtered the men,
married the women, and created a New Rome ;))) .
>
> Your comments will be regularly appreciated ;-)
Thanks! Yours too, by the way :) .
Christophe.
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