Re: OT: LWII: The Euroclones Strike Back!

 --- Konstancin Kronomór skrzypszy:

> Jan van Steenbergen scrievit:
"Scrievit"? That is not Kerno, is it? I mean, varying spelling, okay, but this
looks like an entirely different language!

> > Did you notice how small the letters
> > on the grammar page are?!
>
> Small? They look fine to me!
Tell me where you buy your glasses, I want to have them too!

> Perhaps you need to
> use an actual computer, and not that little
> telephone thingy to read webpages!
No kidding! My computer consumes half a room (and what kind of room!)

> Yes. I don't know enough about Breathanach or its
> history to make any definitive statements. It's
> most likely one of these two: Br is the result of
> a very strong Q-Celtic immigration into a still
> P-Celtic speaking land, where the fusion could
> take place; Br is the result of a very strong
> Q-Celtic immigration into a Romance speaking
> land; ... result of a strong Q-Celtic immigration
> into a P-Celtic-fused-with-Romance speaking land.
> I favour the last option, especially given the
> time frame of Welsh speaking kingdoms in
> Britain's north *here* and the Goidelic invasions
> that gave rise to moden Scotland.
Seems like the most plausible solution, indeed. The only thing that bothers is
that this would mean that Q-Celtic is a superstratum rather than a substratum,
which IIRC is not exactly what Geoff had in mind. Hasn't he ever ventilated his
own opinion on the matter?

> Before the English made such inroads into the
> North, all the land from the Severn on up to
> Forth was, basically, proto-Brithenig speaking
> (what I'd call Northern British Romance). As the
> bloody Saxon punched westward and northward, the
> northern realms failed and over time came to
> speak English. Clearly, the Romance speakers in
> Strathclyde fared better, and the Gaelic invaders
> took on the language of their settled neighbours.
> Cumbria, being close to Kemr though sundered by
> the Ffens, has retained some of its ancient
> language.
But there is also real Scottish Gaelic in IB, right?

> Just look at Brithenig proper and Paesan. Almost
> 100% identical between two texts. There are a few
> lexical variants, one or two minor grammatical
> differences. That's about it.
Hmm, I can't recall to have ever seen Paesan? Where should I look for it?

> > You shouldn't worry too much about them. A
> > bunch of these freaks have been
> > signalled lately in the RTC, trying to proclaim
> > a new IAL To End All IALs,
> > Venedino! Easier to learn, they figured. No
> > articles. Ha! They can't even get
> > the pronunciation right!
>
> Hah! You know you've got them beat when they flit
> from the One And Only IAL to some other language!
You dare to call Venedino "some other language"? You are speaking about the One
And Only IAL here! Their mistake that they were being misled before!

> Quite! Good coinage, too, "esperantoid".
Thank you.

> I didn't know you were supposed to capitalise "eurocents"?
To be honest, I don't know. The rule in Dutch is that words derived from
personal or geographical names are capitalised. But I guess "euro" and
"eurocent" don't really fall into that category and should not be capitalised.
Although, "eurocent" seems to play in the same league as "Austrofascism", which
*is* capitalised, and likewise is "Eurosceptisme".

> I also thought that the plural was officially set at "eurocent".
I suppose you are right. It would be the case in Dutch, at least.

Jan

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"Originality is the art of concealing your source." - Franklin P. Jones

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