Re: OT: Merry Christmas!

Quoting Tristan McLeay <conlang@...>:

> On 27 Dec 2004, at 12.51 am, Andreas Johansson wrote:
>
> > Quoting Tristan McLeay <conlang@...>:
> >
> >> On 25 Dec 2004, at 7.14 am, Mark J. Reed wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:49:05 +1100, Tristan McLeay
> >>> <conlang@...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> It's been freezing here today! Low twenties, and the same is
> >>>> predicted
> >>>> for tomorrow. But no snow round here either; I am talking celsius.
> >>>
> >>> How is "low 20s C" freezing?  I mean, 20C is what we set our
> >>> thermostat to in
> >>> the winter.  It's not balmy, but it's certainly not freezing.
> >>
> >> Well, considering that it's no longer generally jumper-weather, and
> >> considering that it was high twenties at least and generally over
> >> thirty earlier this week, it's relatively freezing.
> >
> > 20 Celsius is not jumper weather?!? A few degrees more, and it's too
> > _hot_ for a
> > jumper ...
>
> Yeah, that's what I'm saying... One wears jumpers when it's cold, i.e.
> during winter, so it's no surprise it's not jumper weather in summer...
> If anything, I would've thought a Scandinavian would be more likely to
> accept 20 as not being jumper-weather (a friend of mine's mother is
> Finnish, and when she first came to Australia she apparently would wear
> shorts-and-a-t-shirt in the middle of winter and die in summer).
Ah, misread you; thought you meant that 20 C was too cold for only wearing a
jumper.

At 20 C, I wear a jumper or not depending on activity. I suppose that part of
the source of confusion is that I don't consider "jumper weather" to be cold -
when it's cold, you've got a jacket over the jumper. Outdoors temperatures of
twenty or more centigrade are decidedly summery.

> > Here's a typical SUMMER day for us: 12C. It can even dip as low as:
> > 10C depending on how much fog we get.
>
> I don't want to know what your winter temperatures are... Though ISTR
> last year someone---possibly Yitzik---talking about blizzards like they
> were warm?
Possibly you're refering to my and John Cowan's discussion of blizzards? It
transpired that the far from a "blizzard" being worse a very severe snowstorm -
as I had thought -, the term includes weather I wouldn't describe as a snowstorm
at all.

Alternatively, Yitzik or someone else may have pointed out the rather mundane
fact that it usually doesn't snow when it's seriously cold.

                                                       Andreas

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